http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=117 9 times out of 10 you will find that you have to create your mold with the parting faces running down to a flat (planar) face. The transitional relief command will allow you to do this. However in a demonstration it is not always the most efficient method in that enviroment. So, If you:- 1: Create your parting faces as normal. 2: When you extrude your stock material, apply the nominal draft that is required for the relief. 3: Use the trim plates to core and cavity region to create the insert. 4: Finally extrude the bottom edges of your stock out which will give you the flat planes required for the vacuum mold. This process takes less than a minute instead of 10 minutes. Hope this helps. Joc zw_admin 2002-10-11 07:03:23 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=117&pid=192 I have would you like to see it. I will arrange a file for you. zw_admin 2002-10-30 08:43:11 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=117&pid=191 email me something and I'll post it for you. Otherwise just go to the ftp/public section and post there. BTW Seen any good movies lately??? zw_admin 2002-10-29 18:28:28 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=117&pid=187 As soon as I get access for uploading I will supply a file. zw_admin 2002-10-24 10:45:42 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=117&pid=182 I agree, it would be nice to see a basic example of this. Thanks in advance Joc! zw_admin 2002-10-16 09:48:29 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=117&pid=180 Joc, Thanks for the suggestions. Since some of us [hand raised] r kind of slow, could you create a VX part with both types of relief. BTW, How was the show? Any pictures? -SoCalSwami zw_admin 2002-10-11 11:03:24