http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2292 [align=left]I am using 2007 and cannot seem to select some text items. Happens in mt and dt in existing drawings. Anyone run into this before?[/align] Neil47 2012-07-12 16:19:51 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2292&pid=15415 the next guess is: is the text in model space, and you are in paper space looking at the text through a viewport? If you can post the example we can find out more! robhowell 2012-07-12 16:23:37 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2292&pid=15414 They are on a separate text layer and pickfirst is on 1. All layers are on and not frozen. None of the selection commands or picks works on this text. Neil47 2012-07-12 16:22:37 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2292&pid=15413 Give a little more background... What layer are they on? Are they on the defpoint layer? If so is the 0 layer turned off or frozen. That could be one cause. robhowell 2012-07-12 16:21:08