http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=963 In ZW3D 2012, it will supports multi-thread tool path computing for Quick Mill 3 Axis. It mean that you can continue programming when there are some operations being batch calculated in the same time. Multi-thread calculation can maximize PC capability and raise work efficiency. [attach]191[/attach][attach]192[/attach] tony 2011-12-25 23:27:57 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=963&pid=14509 Hi, Jeff Thanks for your trust. Wow, that is a great computer with Xeon processor and nice graphic card, I wish I have one. colinchuang2008 2012-03-13 08:41:35 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=963&pid=14508 [i=s] Post Last Edit by Factorytuned at 2012-3-12 23:55 [/i] Hi Colin: I did get the upgrade as stated. I waited to upgrade from 2010sp1 to 2012.. I have experienced the aforementioned issues with the CAM side. Thank you though! Jeff AKA - Factorytuned. System is: S5520HCT/SC5600LXi Platform. X5677 Processing(2 CPU Packages) HT TB enabled 6.4GT/s 12 Gig of ECC ram NUMA enabled 360gig SCSI320(3.2Gb)RAID5Array(10)15K seagate cheetahs Quadro Fermi 2000 Video x8, Ex bus2. 2K3 Server OS but moving to 2K8 OS in the next few weeks. Factorytuned 2012-03-12 23:54:15 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=963&pid=14506 Hi, Jeff ZW3D is a pure 32 bit system, 16bit is a long history. It doesn't mean that ZW3D is using only single thread in the past, probably you could track it from the windows task manager, and there are a lot of threads there if you are using modeling functions. The QM is unique and powerful, in the past, we use only one thread, but it is very optimized, and that is why you could see that QM is faster in Calculation compared to others, now we have the multiple thread technology, it is working even faster than before. We are in the right direction of the calculation technology, and that is just the begin of the story. If you have a powerful system, by upgrading to 2012, you could get up-to 10 times faster graphic performance, could you please download the latest version from ZWSOFT website, and you could experience something difference. A lot of people are talking about 32bit and 64bit, but we need to know the exact difference, the big difference is the huge file support, which is why we are going to 64bit, for the rest of functions, there is not big difference between 32bit and 64bit. I hope that you enjoy the new faster and rebust ZW3D 2012, and let's look forward to the future innovations. colinchuang2008 2012-03-12 13:55:29 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=963&pid=14502 Colin thanks for the update, but multi-threading is being used out of context here. Sad that ZW3D was only stacking the cpu with a single threaded task in past. WOW that's bad! There are plenty of applications from simple general apps to heavy math crunching apps, that run multiple threads.. 5 or more threads, but they DO NOT utilize SMP stacking.. Holding a single CPU or CORE hostage for 100% of the time.. This is NOT SMP capable. The OS is handling the CPU/core switching.. ZW3D behaves like a 16bit app in protected mode. The right question and better question is when will ZW3d become TRUE 64 and Symmetric Multi Processing aware and capable? As this will force a lot of these issues to be addressed. I personally waited to upgrade from 2010sp1 to 2012, in hopes of much better processing performance and video performance. ZW3D is still weak weak weak in those areas. That said, it is interesting to run and use! I use a very powerful system but for not concerning ZW3D. Please help - we pay good money!! Jeff Lemons AKA - Factorytuned Factorytuned 2012-03-12 10:56:09 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=963&pid=14501 Hi, cutter, thanks for your feedback, I have updated the screenshot of the multi-thread tool path calculation of this post. The QM of ZW3D 2011 only use 1 thread of the tool path, while ZW3D 2012 use more threads of the CPU, if you have 8 cores of CPU, it would shows 8 threads. It is only beginning of Quick Mill Multi-thread technology, now you could get 30% faster tool path calculation, and we are very confident that this technology will make the QM better and better. [attach]195[/attach] [attach]196[/attach] Just for anyone who want to track the thread number of your processor, please view the thread by following settings [img]http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/attachments/month_1203/12031210103e92ca57d54c1b91.png[/img] [img]http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/attachments/month_1203/1203121010621c8561b7b86a17.png[/img] For 32 bit and 64 bit, I highly appreciate your comment, Bob's right, 64 bit is the technology that we could use to booth the efficiency, and we are starting to work on it, we are confident that the 64 bit will bring us more exciting news this year, but I couldn't promise the time right, let's see how it goes before 2013. colinchuang2008 2012-03-12 10:21:48 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=963&pid=14500 "In ZW3D 2012, it will supports multi-threaded tool path computing for Quick Mill 3 Axis" This to me means that tool path computing will be done on more than one processor. I have seen no improvement on my same part referenced earlier in this thread in 2012 over what I had in 2011 sp2 and both versions failed to work ending in error messages. Some time back Bob Fisher said in the forum that 2012 was the year for 64 bit. Are you guys going to stay stuck on 32 bit for all of 2012 now? cutter 2012-03-12 02:33:05 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=963&pid=14499 Cutter, I'm with you here man! I hope that the Multi-core Multi-thread cpu and x64 memory support do not come at an additional cost say version 2013. That would be bad for those of us who have waited to upgrade to 2012. That said, Tony I have seen strange behaviour with 2012 as the tool path with miltipule operations, ref. op etc., rest ruff/finishing get more complex 2012 CAM side slows to a halt and eventually becomes unsuable, shuts down and provides a popup for dump data and error reporting. I have an error report file to send somewhere. As it did not find the ZW site link to auto send.. I do like what I see with 2012, it is neat to use with some nice improvments, but it is still lacking in it's ability to be process powerful. It should have evolved by now on the CPU, Memory and Video levels as all the other CADCAM applications that matter have. MasterCam, Cimatron, DelCAM etc.. They are all supporting true 64 now... True 64 in the form of a service pack is a must. The rest of the industry supports these NOW MATURE technologies ZW3D should as well.. Jeff. AKA - Factorytuned. Factorytuned 2012-03-11 00:05:57 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=963&pid=5424 Tony, I know those are two seperate things. I am specifically interested in 64 bit because, correct me if I am wrong, in this verify run I am limited to one core only and I can't get more ram than the 2.7 gig ram and page file. If it was 64 bit I assume I can use a lot more ram per thread. Parallel processing of two or more things does not help me here unless you guys have figured out how to make two or three cores work on one thing. cutter 2012-01-09 21:08:15 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=963&pid=5419 Hi cutter, I thought you might misunderstand the meaning of multi-threaded calculation. Before the 2012 version, it is hard to operate when caculating any operation in background. And it will be a great improvement in 2012 version since it supports multi-threaded calculation. What you have told about is the memory arrangement problem which we have been planning to improve. Thank you for your inquiry. Tony Tan ZWSOFT tony 2012-01-09 19:55:52 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=963&pid=5417 Hi, Cutter We are planing for the 64 bit version, and we will start to work for it after ZW3D 2012 is officially released, which could fix the huge file support as the bigger file might include more and more tool path data. Currently, with the twice faster graphic performance and multi-thread computing technology, we hope that it could fix the problem you mentioned. As we couldn't get your file for test, could you please please download the beta1 for test on January 18th, we appreciate that if you send us the feedback. zw_admin 2012-01-09 19:51:12 http://www.zwsoft.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=963&pid=5411 Question here. On this part I can't get Z Level to finish verify without running out of memory and crashing ZW. I see that about 2.7 gb ram is all ZW can use for this as it is still 32 bit. Will 2012 be true 64 bit? I ended up using offset 3d here because I never could get zlevel to finish. I expanded the page file size and this still did not work. No I can't send the part in because it's not mine to send. This is on a brand new box with a Xeon 3690 cpu, 256 gb ssd, 12gb ram, W7 Pro, Quadro 580. I know the card is a little weak but it works every where else. cutter 2012-01-09 10:36:48