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2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
14-06-2012 04:23 . am | View his/her posts only
I figured it best to start an independent thread for commentary on the SP1 release for 2012.
Can we PLEASE get a white paper which is a list of patches and updates to the software related to the release of SP1, this will help us the users, to confirm the fix is in and the erratum are corrected. PLEASE. Most of the other CAD/CAM companies do this. It helps them track patches and the user to get off corporate back if it has been repaired.
Could someone translate this for corporate so they can understand the importance of this in solving problems... If the programmers patched it, then there is a record of patches.. If the programmers, enhanced "it" then there is a record of enhancements.
Please provide white paper with service packs listing -ALL CRITICAL patches, enhancements, added and removed features. It's a frigging guessing game out here. And questions go unanswered. Would be nice to hear Corporate say, "That will be addressed in a service pack".. Or we're looking into it.. Would get users off corporates' back until the SP is released.
Oh can we vote on a new name for ZW3D too? Maybe a cool name like Verimetric CADCAM, by ZWSoft!. ZW3D says nothing about the product and is confusing to say..
Jeff
AKA - FT/Factorytuned
Can we PLEASE get a white paper which is a list of patches and updates to the software related to the release of SP1, this will help us the users, to confirm the fix is in and the erratum are corrected. PLEASE. Most of the other CAD/CAM companies do this. It helps them track patches and the user to get off corporate back if it has been repaired.
Could someone translate this for corporate so they can understand the importance of this in solving problems... If the programmers patched it, then there is a record of patches.. If the programmers, enhanced "it" then there is a record of enhancements.
Please provide white paper with service packs listing -ALL CRITICAL patches, enhancements, added and removed features. It's a frigging guessing game out here. And questions go unanswered. Would be nice to hear Corporate say, "That will be addressed in a service pack".. Or we're looking into it.. Would get users off corporates' back until the SP is released.
Oh can we vote on a new name for ZW3D too? Maybe a cool name like Verimetric CADCAM, by ZWSoft!. ZW3D says nothing about the product and is confusing to say..
Jeff
AKA - FT/Factorytuned
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
14-06-2012 11:30 . am | View his/her posts only
Great idea.
I am awaiting this information also.
I am sure the long list is already existing and will offer some encouragement to serious users.
It will also allow commercial evaluation.
Re the name, I think Z3 is s a suitable abbreviation. However the reputation is more important than the name.
Cheers,
I am awaiting this information also.
I am sure the long list is already existing and will offer some encouragement to serious users.
It will also allow commercial evaluation.
Re the name, I think Z3 is s a suitable abbreviation. However the reputation is more important than the name.
Cheers,
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
14-06-2012 03:52 . pm | View his/her posts only
Thanks for your advice, we are preparing more documentation for the official release next week. Before the detailed update list has been posted, I would like share the key enhancements as follows.
CAD
1) New display effect of line and face
2) Support PDF gray scale
3) Equation Curve
4) More 3D wireframe support‘Align Plane’
5) New 2D sketch background display
6) Support the newest third party files, including Catia R22, Solidworks 2012, NX8.
7) New “Align Geometry” command
CAM
1) Turning cutting from Left to Right
2) Rough/Finish Turning Enhancements
3) Updated tool library
4) New operation---Turn Groove
5) 2X milling External Helical
6) Undercut function improvement and extension
7) Tool-path Corner Rounding
8) More 2~5X post-processor
Best regards
Colin
CAD
1) New display effect of line and face
2) Support PDF gray scale
3) Equation Curve
4) More 3D wireframe support‘Align Plane’
5) New 2D sketch background display
6) Support the newest third party files, including Catia R22, Solidworks 2012, NX8.
7) New “Align Geometry” command
CAM
1) Turning cutting from Left to Right
2) Rough/Finish Turning Enhancements
3) Updated tool library
4) New operation---Turn Groove
5) 2X milling External Helical
6) Undercut function improvement and extension
7) Tool-path Corner Rounding
8) More 2~5X post-processor
Best regards
Colin
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
14-06-2012 11:20 . pm | View his/her posts only
Hi Colin,
Thanks for the update. Those of us who are concerned with the product for continued use and production will be anxiously awaiting the ERRATUM patch list.
Enhancements are nice but solidifying the current platform is paramount to customers repeat business and good words about the product.
I'm glad to hear the tool lib is updated, much needed. Hopefully we've worked on processor and memory efficiency, along with some the very strange video issues.
A bit off topic but ultimately related; cost -vs- value.
Corporations care very little about inexpensive cluncky software, as that has no value, they get a tax credit on such purchases anyway. Most firms large and small, will pay premium for production software such as CATIA, UG-NX, Cimatron, DelCAM and MasterCAM. These are very robust products and have a price tag with that capability. Do not cheapen this software please! It should be stated, "it works right", and at whatever price, "is good value".
Make the software solid, reliable and complete. Then price it where it should be.
Jeff
AKA - FT/Factorytuned
Thanks for the update. Those of us who are concerned with the product for continued use and production will be anxiously awaiting the ERRATUM patch list.
Enhancements are nice but solidifying the current platform is paramount to customers repeat business and good words about the product.
I'm glad to hear the tool lib is updated, much needed. Hopefully we've worked on processor and memory efficiency, along with some the very strange video issues.
A bit off topic but ultimately related; cost -vs- value.
Corporations care very little about inexpensive cluncky software, as that has no value, they get a tax credit on such purchases anyway. Most firms large and small, will pay premium for production software such as CATIA, UG-NX, Cimatron, DelCAM and MasterCAM. These are very robust products and have a price tag with that capability. Do not cheapen this software please! It should be stated, "it works right", and at whatever price, "is good value".
Make the software solid, reliable and complete. Then price it where it should be.
Jeff
AKA - FT/Factorytuned
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
15-06-2012 05:14 . am | View his/her posts only
Reply 4# Factorytuned
Hi Jeff, with you all the way on that.
Whilst the budget is an issue for me and I am sure many others, there is a higher driving force in CAD software.
I have not started using 2012 commercially since it has too many small issues to allow me the confidence to make that commitment. However, I kinda expected that considering the amount of change. If the fixes are up to it I will consider the move.
So the BIG message to management is to FOCUS on robust reliability as #1. This is an imperative.
For me the second imperative is the user experience - consistent ease of use - consistent behaviour across all tools.
(My personal beef is tools that require unessential clicks to operate or are not intuitive)
Then I need robust output to 2D in particular.
The full list is much longer but these stand at the top.
Roll on SP2. Looking forward to it.
Hi Jeff, with you all the way on that.
Whilst the budget is an issue for me and I am sure many others, there is a higher driving force in CAD software.
I have not started using 2012 commercially since it has too many small issues to allow me the confidence to make that commitment. However, I kinda expected that considering the amount of change. If the fixes are up to it I will consider the move.
So the BIG message to management is to FOCUS on robust reliability as #1. This is an imperative.
For me the second imperative is the user experience - consistent ease of use - consistent behaviour across all tools.
(My personal beef is tools that require unessential clicks to operate or are not intuitive)
Then I need robust output to 2D in particular.
The full list is much longer but these stand at the top.
Roll on SP2. Looking forward to it.
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
15-06-2012 06:00 . am | View his/her posts only
Helloi hope very much that they are not only those
scheet metal ?? 
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
15-06-2012 09:58 . am | View his/her posts only
Hi, Jeff
The list I posted is only the new key functions. Besides, there are more fixes. '30+ new feature, 140+ fixes' is what we have done for SP1.
Certainly, the stability has been enhanced a lot by memory optimization and graphic enhancement, we are dedicated to providing the reliable software, i.e. in SP1, we have tested the post processors in kinds of lathes and milling machines to assure the CAM capability in real machining.
Thanks for your trust, ZW3D is high-quality product, we hope that more and more customers could have the opportunity to try the product and enjoy the product. For the long-term plan, we are confident that more key success will be achieved to the next new version, including CAD and CAM.
Best regards
Colin
The list I posted is only the new key functions. Besides, there are more fixes. '30+ new feature, 140+ fixes' is what we have done for SP1.
Certainly, the stability has been enhanced a lot by memory optimization and graphic enhancement, we are dedicated to providing the reliable software, i.e. in SP1, we have tested the post processors in kinds of lathes and milling machines to assure the CAM capability in real machining.
Thanks for your trust, ZW3D is high-quality product, we hope that more and more customers could have the opportunity to try the product and enjoy the product. For the long-term plan, we are confident that more key success will be achieved to the next new version, including CAD and CAM.
Best regards
Colin
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
15-06-2012 10:10 . am | View his/her posts only
Hi, mirko72
There are some key enhancement which could help ZW3D working faster. For the Sheet Metal functions, there are no new functions. We have a plan to enhance some features in SP2. In order to enhance the sheet metal as you expected, could you please send me some typical parts to zw3d@zwsoft.com, and then we could take them to the future plan
Best regards
Colin
There are some key enhancement which could help ZW3D working faster. For the Sheet Metal functions, there are no new functions. We have a plan to enhance some features in SP2. In order to enhance the sheet metal as you expected, could you please send me some typical parts to zw3d@zwsoft.com, and then we could take them to the future plan
Best regards
Colin
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15-06-2012 10:04 . pm | View his/her posts only
Reply 8# colinchuang2008
Hi Colin i don't understand the choice to not have improvements in plate, but it should be may be seen that it is not in the course of the working priorities , I am sorry, but I abide, files of the parts have been given all to AntaresItalia, with explanations of the problems, other i have scattered in the forum and I can understand that nn you can satisfy all
Hi Colin i don't understand the choice to not have improvements in plate, but it should be may be seen that it is not in the course of the working priorities , I am sorry, but I abide, files of the parts have been given all to AntaresItalia, with explanations of the problems, other i have scattered in the forum and I can understand that nn you can satisfy all
Babylon 9
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18-06-2012 05:34 . pm | View his/her posts only
Reply Factorytuned
Hi Jeff, with you all the way on that.
Whilst the budget is an issue for me and ...
mudcrab Post at 2012-6-15 05:14
I second this whole heartedly.
Its unusable for us here.
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
19-06-2012 09:13 . am | View his/her posts only
Hi, mirko72
For the sheet metal we talked about, I think it is about the Fold along a line, keeping the position when the bend radius is changed. Both of them will be fixed in SP2, as well as other Sheet metal enhancement.
Best regards
Colin
For the sheet metal we talked about, I think it is about the Fold along a line, keeping the position when the bend radius is changed. Both of them will be fixed in SP2, as well as other Sheet metal enhancement.
Best regards
Colin
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
19-06-2012 07:55 . pm | View his/her posts only
Reply 11# colinchuang2008
Hi Colinthank you for your reply , i hope nn is only the fold along a line that it is the easiest thing that i place , however i look the fact for 2 years, i still for a few month
Hi Colinthank you for your reply , i hope nn is only the fold along a line that it is the easiest thing that i place , however i look the fact for 2 years, i still for a few month
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
21-06-2012 10:33 . pm | View his/her posts only
Hi Colin,
Well articulated. Thanks. As SP1 is anxiously awaited, so some of us can finish parts, please don't rush it. It needs to be right. Not interested in a cluncky SP1, but a right SP1..
I for one am willing to wait a few days for testing than get the SP and have some other issues that I did not have before the SP...
Thanks.
Jeff
AKA - FT/Factorytuned.
Well articulated. Thanks. As SP1 is anxiously awaited, so some of us can finish parts, please don't rush it. It needs to be right. Not interested in a cluncky SP1, but a right SP1..
I for one am willing to wait a few days for testing than get the SP and have some other issues that I did not have before the SP...
Thanks.
Jeff
AKA - FT/Factorytuned.
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
26-06-2012 10:50 . pm | View his/her posts only
Post Last Edit by Factorytuned at 2012-6-26 22:52
Colin,
I have to say this is good stuff! From what I have seen from the last 4 hours spent with 2012 SP1 it is genuinely nicer, more professional, and more complete. You guys have fulfilled the white paper request as well with nice images and explanations. Well done. Careful, as Americans, once we see that the bar is raised and good quality is and can be provided, we expect the same or better every time! Or we start saying really nasty things!!
The general idea of the American Engineer is quality, as good, or better than the last thing we did..
That said, the CAM side needs macro video help badly, or I need someone to tell me how to improve the macro zoom performance. Solid verify is the issue and is so slow in a mcaro zoom situation, it can stall or crash 3D.. This causes some instability. For now, looks good. Will be nice when it is true64 and multicore capable. But hopefully we can get the solid verify worked out.
I will be looking at the erratum list closely for the fix reported vs the erratum found. It's a good path you guys are on however.
Thanks a bunch for now.
Jeff Lemons
AKA-FT/Factorytuned.
Colin,
I have to say this is good stuff! From what I have seen from the last 4 hours spent with 2012 SP1 it is genuinely nicer, more professional, and more complete. You guys have fulfilled the white paper request as well with nice images and explanations. Well done. Careful, as Americans, once we see that the bar is raised and good quality is and can be provided, we expect the same or better every time! Or we start saying really nasty things!!
The general idea of the American Engineer is quality, as good, or better than the last thing we did..
That said, the CAM side needs macro video help badly, or I need someone to tell me how to improve the macro zoom performance. Solid verify is the issue and is so slow in a mcaro zoom situation, it can stall or crash 3D.. This causes some instability. For now, looks good. Will be nice when it is true64 and multicore capable. But hopefully we can get the solid verify worked out.
I will be looking at the erratum list closely for the fix reported vs the erratum found. It's a good path you guys are on however.
Thanks a bunch for now.
Jeff Lemons
AKA-FT/Factorytuned.
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
27-06-2012 10:40 . am | View his/her posts only
Hi, Jeff
Thanks for your compliment which is the best to encourage our continuous work, I appreciate that you like SP1. '30 New features+180 enhancement' was the effort done by both of Florida development and Guangzhou development, your kind word is the best gift for ZWSOFT.
After ZW3D 2012 SP1 is released, now we are busy in working on the next major release ZW3D 2013, 64bit will be supported, 'Solid Verify' will be upgraded which could fix the problem you mentioned, all of CAM tutorial materials will be provided together with a lot of CAM enhancement, I will post the relevant information once the beta is available before the end of this year.
For the marco tutorial, it is just for test only, and it is quite difficult to use. Therefore, we will develop the easier API instead, ZW3D 2013 is full of the wish list, the API stuff of CAM will be considered after ZW3D 2013 is released.
Best regards
Colin
Thanks for your compliment which is the best to encourage our continuous work, I appreciate that you like SP1. '30 New features+180 enhancement' was the effort done by both of Florida development and Guangzhou development, your kind word is the best gift for ZWSOFT.
After ZW3D 2012 SP1 is released, now we are busy in working on the next major release ZW3D 2013, 64bit will be supported, 'Solid Verify' will be upgraded which could fix the problem you mentioned, all of CAM tutorial materials will be provided together with a lot of CAM enhancement, I will post the relevant information once the beta is available before the end of this year.
For the marco tutorial, it is just for test only, and it is quite difficult to use. Therefore, we will develop the easier API instead, ZW3D 2013 is full of the wish list, the API stuff of CAM will be considered after ZW3D 2013 is released.
Best regards
Colin
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28-06-2012 09:02 . am | View his/her posts only
Hi Colin,
I also want to thank the team for the effort in SP1. Seems to be a more enjoyable experience now.
I am still figuring out the Drawing but can see how to do what ever I want. I like the speed improvements.
One thing that could be easily improved is more options within attributes and bundles and drawing templates. I would have thought the ZWCAD team could make a nice contribution there.
Setting up bundles and attributes is something a new user should not have to do or even think about. If there was a nice suite options supplied, then most users would be ecstatic.
Cheers
I also want to thank the team for the effort in SP1. Seems to be a more enjoyable experience now.
I am still figuring out the Drawing but can see how to do what ever I want. I like the speed improvements.
One thing that could be easily improved is more options within attributes and bundles and drawing templates. I would have thought the ZWCAD team could make a nice contribution there.
Setting up bundles and attributes is something a new user should not have to do or even think about. If there was a nice suite options supplied, then most users would be ecstatic.
Cheers
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28-06-2012 09:49 . am | View his/her posts only
Hi, Paul
Thanks for your kind word and suggestion, I'm happy that you enjoy the new update.
About the 2D, the style-based suite will be provided according to different country standard， including ANSI/ISO/GB/DIN/JIS, which will provide a set of drawing standard. Of course, the modification of style is available.
I love the V17 project, I'm pretty sure you will be very satisfied if we achieve the target as the plan. It is still too early to talk more about the new features in V17, when it is coming closer, I will post more information.
Best regards
Colin
Thanks for your kind word and suggestion, I'm happy that you enjoy the new update.
About the 2D, the style-based suite will be provided according to different country standard， including ANSI/ISO/GB/DIN/JIS, which will provide a set of drawing standard. Of course, the modification of style is available.
I love the V17 project, I'm pretty sure you will be very satisfied if we achieve the target as the plan. It is still too early to talk more about the new features in V17, when it is coming closer, I will post more information.
Best regards
Colin
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
28-06-2012 10:43 . am | View his/her posts only
Hi Colin,
whilst I can understand your excitement about what can be, we of the old school call anything that is not available right now - 'Phantom Ware'.
It is the users curse, the salesmans dream. But you cannot trust it or use it or make money with it. No one can.
I prefer to deal with what is available and operational now.
I want evidence of solid functionality and steady improvements in workflow. All these things can exist within the current products if the imagination and vision is there to make those decisions. Right now, there is plenty of scope for user benefiting refinement.
I actually think you are missing out by not having the Wishlist segment of this forum operating. It has been 'under construction' for 6 months or more now.
I can also accept that some things are the result of engine room issues that need resolving.
For now - roll on SP2.
Cheers
whilst I can understand your excitement about what can be, we of the old school call anything that is not available right now - 'Phantom Ware'.
It is the users curse, the salesmans dream. But you cannot trust it or use it or make money with it. No one can.
I prefer to deal with what is available and operational now.
I want evidence of solid functionality and steady improvements in workflow. All these things can exist within the current products if the imagination and vision is there to make those decisions. Right now, there is plenty of scope for user benefiting refinement.
I actually think you are missing out by not having the Wishlist segment of this forum operating. It has been 'under construction' for 6 months or more now.
I can also accept that some things are the result of engine room issues that need resolving.
For now - roll on SP2.
Cheers
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03-07-2012 02:30 . am | View his/her posts only
Hi Colin,
even if not yet released in eng i tried the eng , bella the enhanced graphics, for the rest i can not say anything are just a CAD user where i have not seen much from sp1, i look anxious the sp2, congratulations to all the staff for the efforts (babylon traslator)
Mirko72
even if not yet released in eng i tried the eng , bella the enhanced graphics, for the rest i can not say anything are just a CAD user where i have not seen much from sp1, i look anxious the sp2, congratulations to all the staff for the efforts (babylon traslator)
Mirko72
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03-07-2012 09:20 . am | View his/her posts only
Reply 19# mirko72
Hi, mirko
Thanks for your trust, time goes fast, we are continuing to work for SP2, as well as ZW3D 2013. I will post more information once we achieve them.
Best regards
Colin
Hi, mirko
Thanks for your trust, time goes fast, we are continuing to work for SP2, as well as ZW3D 2013. I will post more information once we achieve them.
Best regards
Colin
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
17-07-2012 01:23 . am | View his/her posts only
Hi Colin,
i wanted kindly know if the translation ITA is provided in ZW3D 2012 SP1 ?
thanks
Mirko
(babylon traslator)
i wanted kindly know if the translation ITA is provided in ZW3D 2012 SP1 ?
thanks
Mirko
(babylon traslator)
2012 SP1 What's in it? Release white paper.
17-07-2012 01:35 . pm | View his/her posts only
Reply 21# mirko72
Hi, Mirko
The SP1 translation of the ITA version is not finished yet, we will release it once it is done.
Best regards
Colin
Hi, Mirko
The SP1 translation of the ITA version is not finished yet, we will release it once it is done.
Best regards
Colin
